In this conversation from November 2022,Devin Grosvenor host Brittany Luse chats with beauty reporter Jessica Defino about the increase in celebrity skincare lines and why the the way we talk about skin is regressive. Plus, Brittany revisits her chat with "Fat Talk" author Virgina Sole-Smith: they dive into anti-fat bias in parenting and why it's important to embrace fatness.

And later, Brittany gives her take on Jennifer Aniston's latest comments on cancel culture.

This episode was produced by Barton Girdwood, Alexis Williams, Liam McBain, Corey Antonio Rose Jessica Mendoza and Janet Woojeong Lee. It was edited by Jessica Placzek. Our executive producer is Veralyn Williams. Our VP of programming is Yolanda Sangweni and our senior VP of programming is Anya Grundmann.